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is a combination of spending cuts and revenue increases. obama put on the table t trillion in spending cuts and we'll find another trillion in revenue increases and every economist is unanimous. that the way of increasing revenue is going after the top two percent. >> well, i don't know. wayne, i heard lot of ideas about sphending coming out. >> julian, you need to run for public office. you are the perfect kind of guy that thinks of million of dollars is a rounding error. that's what congress thinks. you can run and so you can steal from the public like they do. >> it is it wayne let me respond. it i it a rhetorical game you played there. but in reality if you have the biggest largest lottery that the world has known, you will not make a slightest dent in the debt. >> who cares. when you get out of the chair and walk to the door you have to start somewhere. every bit counts. i took three trillion steps that you didn't take to identify how to deal with the debt problem. >> that's not the reason. i can giv you reasons to deal with that. s, raise taxes and you can cut spinding automatically. if i we
split right down the metal on the political ppll on how they want obama to cut the deficit. 41 percent responded in favor of spending cuts. 41 percent of respondents saying they favor tax increases. the white house says it will offer a counterproposal to house speaker proposal. saying that unless he accepts tax increases on the rich the president is willing to go over the cliff. let's get straight to the politics of these developments and the rhetoric and possible economic impact of failure to resolve the issues. joining as, former special assistant to president george w. bush, a veteran political consultants and republican pollster. let's start, if i may, with you. do you think both sides right now are seriously ready to go over the cliff? >> i think the president is very ready because they are reading into this election last month a mandate that i simply don't see. the president got 15 million americans to vote against him which fail to produce any type of meaningful budget in his democratic controlled senate. we are at the disco club because of the president's inability to ever a si
in washington? >>> president obama presses the case for tax hikes on the rich, and the tax cut extension for the middle class, now. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> but republicans aren't budging, accusing the president of avoiding tough choices on spending and wasting time in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it's not a serious proposal. and so right now, we're almost nowhere. >> will there be a deal by the end of the year? and what are the consequences for the economy if there isn't one? we'll ask the president's lead budget negotiator, treasury secretary tim geithner. >>> then the view from capitol hill. are democrats as divided over cutting medicare as republicans are over tax increases? with us, two voices calling for compromise. republican senator bob corker of tennessee and democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri. >>> finally, our special economic roundtable. as both sides battle over the nation's fiscal health, what can we expect from the economy in a second obama term? w
to get tax cuts, what president obama has proposed. this is not rocket science, not complicated. boehner, lead or resign. >> this is "the bill press show." ed is calling from frederick maryland. what do you say, ed? >> caller: good morning. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ music ] >> coming to you live at current.com/billpress. this is "the bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> you've got it 33 minutes after the hour now. here we go with the "full-court press." this monday morning, december 3rd, coming to you live from our nation's capitol brought to you today by the communication workers of america, good men and woman of the communication
that the spending cuts go up and become more immediate. considering that obama has been open to spending cuts in previous negotiations and says he is open to it now and republicans have changed from where they were a year ago when it comes to tax increases, i think it will not take too much to get their, although there are still obstacles. host: the $1.60 trillion and $800 billion are the opening numbers. where are we with those numbers now. have those numbers been altered? guest: i do not know if republicans have gone above $800. the question will be, will obama be able to get above $800. once you start talking about the $1 trillion number, that is a politically sensitive number. obama might want to get above $1 trillion. republicans will want to keep it below $1 to win. host: are the senate ways and means and finance committees involved in these discussions? guest: sam bachus, the ways and means chairman, they're keeping in touch. their staff are very involved, because they're the guys who know all about taxes. they are definitely going to be involved in negotiations, even if they are sligh
with president barack obama to raise rates on the rich that extend tax cuts for income below $250,000. with congress scrambling to avert the series of tax inincreasing and spending cuts due to cut in, should approve a deal ensuring that $98% of americans do not suffer a tax increase that endangers the economic recovery. that's from the national journal this morning. this is from the hill newspaper. that's where you lose us because we want to strengthen these programs, not let them die on the vine. again, that's from "the hill" newspaper. dixie is a republican in clinton, mississippi. what do you think? caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i think it is a surprise to me, and i cannot help but wonder why all the talk about increasing taxes, making cuts, and we need cuts, why the welfare is never addressed. we have people who are living like millionaires from welfare. they get free food, they get free housing, they get free schooling, they get -- the children get lunches two times a day at school. and they get all kind of benefits, but nothing is ever said about cut
speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it's... i
cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it's... it's... was not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere. >> reporter: across the capitol, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell told the "wall street journal" his party would be willing to bring in more tax revenues if the president agreed to tighten up the eligibility requirements for entitlements. mcconnell said that could mean higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, an increase in the medicare eligibility age and slower cost-of-living increases for social security. but he ruled out higher tax rates. most democrats have ruled out all of those cuts, arguing they would undermine the nation's most successful programs. the president asked for, but it appears republicans would be unlikely to agree to gi
the people, even with the budget cut that president obama asked for of 400, almost $485 billion in 2011, even with the cuts in the army that that would have involved, the army would have still been roughly 30 or 40,000 troops bigger than it was when i became secretary in december of 2006. because i increased the size of the army by 65,000 in 2007, and then gave them an additional temporary increels of 2000 in 2008, or in 2010, rather, increels of 200,000, so i worry we think the answer is always go to be high tech, because it is cleaner, it is -- it dictates a different kind of war than we fought in iraq and afghanistan and i hope those are the kind of wars, if we have to fight, that that is what we don't have to go through what we went through in iraq and afghanistan, but i remember .. one of my favorite quotes is from general joe still well, from world war two, who basically said how a war starts, it always ends in mud. >> rose: ground forces fighting each other. >> and so you just don't know .. and because you don't know, you need to preserve flexibility. >> rose: you can't occupy with mac
't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm assuming they'd want to have a big tax cut, right? >> no. >> they would sit on their hands post-january 1st and say nothing? >> do you think republicans are so stupid in the house they don't see that move coming and say, you know what? you go ahead and you try to pass your tax cut through harry reid's senate, and we'll pass our tax cut through the house. and good luck. >> so they would just rather have everyone's tax -- i'm shock that that would be the end result. >> harry reid would rather have it his way or nobody's way? >> no, i'm saying you can negotiate in these flex three weeks about this package of tax cuts. >> i don't mean this to be directed towards you -- >> but here it comes. >> -- no, i'm just saying generally, there is such an arrogance in the media since the president won. they think that these house republicans are -- >> have nothing to say. >> -- have absolutely nothing to say. >> i do agree with that. or nothing of value. >> they act
? they attack him. for the entire campaign all we heard about was how obama wanted to cut medicare. so which is it? i it he cut too much or he doesn't cut anything? and where is there offer? if they say they are the party of cutting spending stop talking about the democrats, make an offer. >> mitch mcconnell is out there every single day saying these are the entitlement changes that i think make sense and would get us to a deal. raising the retirement age, dealing with change the inflation formula so the programs aren't spending so much out over time. if president obama is interested in reforming entitlements which he says he is but he never specifies what it would be. all he has to do is call up mitch mcconnell and say i think these are good ideas, let's sit down and they would happen. republicans would take those immediately. >> that's how you think republicans should lead, they should wait for a call from the president? not go on tv but make an actual offer? >> specific changes on entitlements. if the president is in favor of changing entitlements, all he has to do is say i agree these ar
of negotiating a tax cut, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spending problem in washington. that's not really talked about. there's a lot of focus on the other side, but th
that could drag the economy into recession. obama said on wednesday that federal revenues will not reach the level needed to implement his proposals to cut the deficit unless taxes are raid on the wealthy. >> there is a bottom-line amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan. >> obama added that if republican officials acknowledged this reality, the actual numbers proposed by each party are not that far apart. republicans have made a counteroffer. they want to raise revenue by reviewing the current tax deduke system. house speaker john boehner has urged the president to compromise. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. now we need a response from the white house. >> unless the two sides reach an agreement by the end of this year, the automatic tax increases and spending cuts will take effect in the new year. >>> time to get a check on the markets now. the nikkei here in tokyo rose above the key 9,500 level as concerns about the u.s. economy eased. the nikkei index right now trading at 9521, a
movement on the cutting of spending either. peter: president obama and john boehner in front of cameras to make their cases in the battle over the fiscal cliff. the speaker said he is willing to move forward with negotiations in good faith after republicans rejected the president's first formal offer yesterday as being short on spending cuts, but it doesn't sound like anyone has put the brakes on the road to the coin. >> let's not kid ourselves. i am not trying to make this more difficult. i have been very guarded. i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. >> this is not some run-of-the-mill debate, not about which political party can come out on top in negotiations and all of us get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i am willing to do at and i am hopeful enough members of congress in both parties are willing to do that as well. >> the president's plan repeat his demand for $1.6 trillion over ten years on families making $250,000 a year and includes $400 billion in cuts, savings in medicare and medicaid and other
the stimulus package. he said, this is the lesson he learned. now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my re
off the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in next year. john boehner said he can't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. timothy geithner was on the hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was fl
raising taxes not cutting spending. tax everything. but there are rich people who will avoid the obama tax increases the board of directors at costco will get a huge tax windfall by paying themselves a big dividend this year. and jim senegal, charlie monger, bill gates' father all on the board in favor of taxing the rich, really? and the debate on guns front and center. that murder-suicide involving the kansas city linebacker brings on the call for gun control and the possibility of head injuries in football and drugs and alcohol. all right, everybody, monday morning, "varney & company" about to begin. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba ding the great rrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the marke he goes with people he trus, which ishy he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what haens, which isn't rocketcience. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. well, having a ton olocations doesn't hurt. a sant
, but they are not specified. myth number 3, obama has put $400 billion of unspecified cuts on the table. he claimed obama's -- i'm serious -- proposal -- >> he is a drama queen. >> mine is serious. theres isn't serious! i'm flabbergasted. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: the programs have existed for quite sometime. here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ] republican of oklahoma. >> i'm certain if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes -- >> stephanie: no it's not. and the aforementioned drama queen, lindsay gram. >> i'm pretty sure we have going over the cliff. >> good heavens! >> stephanie: oh, my god! i think we're going over t
that they should agree with president obama and extend the tax cuts for middle-class americans and then fight later on for that tax cut for the wealthy. we will ask him about this latest proposal, the counterproposal from the house republicans. j.d. on twitter says -- on our republican , richard from colorado springs, colorado. caller: c-span could put on actual science. i think there is a lot of magical thinking on the part of democrats here. first of all, they are assuming if they raise the taxes on this one%, it will not affect the jobs and the companies that they work for. nor would it affect the customers they have. what are the percentages of the most important job creators around? how did you identify them? they had no clue. i think the other aspect of magical thinking is that in the noise and the signal, nate silver pointed out previously a 12% rise in gdp might ake for a 2% rise in employment. in 2005, we got 3.5 million jobs lost. it is a fantasy to believe that the president's spending is going to make employment rise more. recently, there has been an article by a harvard university law
of my2k origins. a few samples. obama irony, same people who claimed bush tax cuts are only for the rich now argue to keep them because they help the poor. and there is this one. my2k should really be somebody else's two k. they can government not to take their money and say take it from someone else. and then there is this one, y2k was caught by programmers failing to limit code 24 places. speed was caused by americans failing to limit obama to four years. back to you. melissa: thank you so much, thanks they want to tweet hash tag bad ideas. thank you, dennis. lori: what is going on? melissa: you haven't been shopping. lori: luxury jeweler not looking very pretty today. the trade at the nyse coming ahead. melissa: is andrew mason the right person to run it groupon? meeting on the troubled company's future. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. now is a good time to think abo
in the philadelphia suburbs and he made clear the rich must pay their fair share. obama's job number one, a tax cut for the 98%. the rest of the people. let's listen to him. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? of that doesn't make sense. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. that's already passed the senate. your members of congress, like alison and chaka, other democrats in the house, they're ready to go, they're ready to vote on that same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, we can pass the bill in the house, it will land on my desk, and i am ready, i have got a bunch of pens ready to sign this bill. >> 30 minutes after the president was finished, house speaker john boehner had held a press conference and he left unanswered the president's call for decoupled that 98% from the richest 2% and he gave a pessimistic asse
for oneyear. then its sprang back to life as part of the extension of the bush tax cuts that president obama signed into law. you have a debate -- very few members dispute that it needs to be continued. the debate is over whether you continue it at the current level. there is an exemption level, $10 million for a couple. or at the white house would prefer a 45% rate. that is the debate right now. there's a split among democrats. the white house wants a less generous estate tax. max-leaning states like baucu baucus. host: that was the headline recently in "the wall street journal," showing the senators. at its highest, was that was the estate tax? how many people did the estate tax affect? guest: we are talking tens of thousands. right now it affects 3000 the estates. the exemption level is set high historical novel. it has come down significantly. big argument from conservatives is it hits small businesses and farms. the number a hits is a small fraction. host: if nothing happens, what happens to the estate tax? guest: then it goes back to the levels of an exemption of $1 million. host: and
. it is a matter of how you do it. >> this is why, although obama's proposal did not talk about spending cuts and i wish he had, he talked about stimulus and infrastructure spending as part of his proposal. they will spend some on infrastructure. they are worried about the economy. very anemic in the first half of next year. connell: what do you make of it? >> we do not have a choice. we have to raise revenue. we have to cut spending. we have to get on a more solid path. there will be a cost to it. the other problem is, you know, to your point, when you talk about, let's say you use the word tax reform, what does that mean, they will deal with either the mortgage deduction, the charitable deduction or the state tax deduction. think about how that affects the behavior of individuals. that is all coming down the road. that will come and it talked about exterior. it really affects people's behavior. connell: robert, always great stuff. thank you. we do have a little piece of breaking news that wave want to pass along. lottery officials are telling us that the mechanic and his wife are the missouri win
have a question for you. i heard president obama is making cuts to medicare if his plan goes through. he wants to cut $400 billion in entitlements. i collect ssdi. i am disabled. these $40 billion cuts in entitlements, are they going to affect ssi, ssdi? guest: we do not know what the administration is talking about yet. that offer came from the administration on the hill yesterday. it was not specific. $400 billion is what we are looking at in entitlement savings and we're not sure if it is ssdi or how beneficiaries would be affected. host: children make up a lot of these credits. which of these are affected by the amount of children you have? guest: some of them do matter. the eitc, there was a law that allowed you to climate for more than three children. that could go away by the end of the year. host: the earned income tax credit specifically. mary from kentucky on the republican line. caller: good morning. we are small business owners. with many of these taxes going up and there are proposals in kentucky to raise some of our state taxes because we have deficits and pension oblig
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white hous
associate with the ground-based interceptor. the obama administration has cut way back on the numbers of those, on the deployment, and on the development of the new generation of kill vehicles. they have cut the funding for that. a system that can be both an effective american defense system and protect regional interests, such as europe, for example, from a threat from a country like iran, for example. the great pronouncement in bowling to provide the rationale for cutting way back on the gbi was that we are going to have something even better. of course everybody said wait a minute. the fourth stage of that would be very effective against a missile launched by mistake or perhaps by a rogue commander. in any event, the russians are now saying under no circumstances should you develop that. they not only object to a missile defense system that might potentially be effective against them, let alone other countries. they also have been putting enough pressure that i wonder if the administration will go forward as what they characterize as a substitute for gbi. >> i think a couple of les
all. >> president obama urged congress today to extend middle- class tax cuts and avoid the fiscal cliff. he spoke of the eisenhower executive office building for about 10 minutes. he travels to a call factory in pennsylvania earlier this week to talk about taxes and the economy. >> thank you very much. everybody please have a seat -- except you guys. [laughter] good morning, everybody. there has been a lot of talk here in washington about the deadlines we are facing on taxes and deficits. these deadlines are going to be coming up very soon in the coming weeks. but today's important because i want to make sure everybody understands that this is not just about numbers. it is a set of major decisions that are going to expect millions of families all across this country in very significant ways, and their voices, the voices of the american people, have to be part of this debate. so i asked some friends of mine to join me, some folks from here in the area. our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. that kind of ag
. >> president obama will continue to press republicans to let tax cuts expire for people make more than $250,000 a year. reports say the president's opening wid in budget talks calls for $1.6 trillion tax increase. that plan whether he had to sharp comments from both sides of the political aisle. >> now is the time for republicans to you've past this happy talk about revenues ill defined of course and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. >> what we don't know is what the white house is willing to do it get serious about solving our debt crisis. >> if more, we're joined by mark zandi, chief economist at moody's analytics who is here in london. welcome. >> thank you. >> so the fiscal cliff issue, end of the year is looming. we saw the response to this opening gambit by president obama. how likely is it that this is the final plan put forward, what elements do you expect to be most critical here as talks continue? >> i think there will be a lot of brinkmanship. this is just the beginning of the process. i think it will be a while. we'll probably go into next year and
negotiations and the president iic mum on spending cuts, how should republicans respond? and ahead of january's big tax hikes, companies and investors are cashing out. including one of president obama's biggest supporters. plus, as susan rice makes the rounds on capitol hill, we'll look at who could make up the national security team in president obama's second term. ♪ >> i am ready and able and willing and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion so that american families, american businesses, have some certainty going into next year. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and i'm disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. the fiscal cliff is a serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> welcome tt colonel, editorial report, i'm paul gigot, not a meeting of the minds between president obama and house speaker john boehner where talks to end the fiscal showdown ends. the president for his park took his place for the public and called for america and little cuts to
, then there will be concerns about cuts, rate cuts in the credit standing of the united states. that's what they're going to be worried about. >> that even goes to obama's terminology yesterday. he talked about presenting a framework by chris mall. framework, all that means is, listen, we've got to plan, we can modify it, tweak it -- the market will not want that. >> the market will move very quickly if they perceive it is not substance. remember it's two parts -- soon and substance. >> thank you very much. >>> to the nasdaq right now, bertha coombs is there following the big movers. >> over the last couple of days the nasdaq has managed to move into positive territory for the month of november, back above 3,000. today one of the biggest movers is research in motion getting an upgrade at goldman sachs. one of the firms that sees them perhaps getting some traction with the blackberry 10 rollout in 2013. apple up today as well, up more than 1%. look what's happened this month. nasdaq composite has moved up without the help of apple. apple on track for the third straight monthly loss. what's really made the
president obama's own self- described architecture of $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new revenue. we are prepared to work and call on the white house to do the same thing. >> speaker boehner, president obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard line on those making 250 and above. >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to the receive news we are putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. \[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt
. so what do we do? we start, melissa, because over the last decade evious to president obama, we have spent like, we are running water. two ws and bush tax cuts. melissa: we afree on that. >> bush tax cuts. melissa: we have spent way too . this plan doesn't basically entitlement spending. we don't get our snding, with any ofthese three plans. even going over the cliff we don't get the spendin in order. i will giv you the last word. th we go on. >> the issue with the republicans they're losing is. they're losing the argument, the debate, they're losing everythi. what we need to do is, to respond to the question, what do we do now in three weeks? let's go aheadand give 98% of the american people a tax t. none of us are ignoring the viability and importance of looking at entitlement reform as it relates to savings getting rid of waste fraud and abuse and other aspects. i will not tolerate increase in eligibility or raising the age but what republicans are doing is, they are putting theissue taxes and theye not telling the american people that the enlightment reform and tax reform is ane
are at a stand still. president barack obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as the first part of any deal and he likened republicans to scrooge today, while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> the president's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say the president's opening bid is nothing but a political stunt. so where does that leave us? after months of hearing about the fiscal cliff, there are no signs of a compromise plan. let's bring in senior congressional correspondent miss dana bash. dana? republicans say president obama's opening offer is, you know, all take and no give here. do they feel like the president is
and frustrated way. obama doesn't have a mandate to raise taxes. george bush cut taxes with a minus half a million mar jib gi the polls. so if that isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what is with the loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank. ending an incredible career in massachusetts. thank you so much. we're going to have you back, if we can. >> i'll be around. >> i'm going to ask you what you miss positively and negatively from the congress. thank for coming on tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> when we return, let me finish with whether the politicians will be able to do what's necessary this this month. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future.
-offer in fiscal cliff negotiations with president obama takes away a white house argument that the republicans have no plan and puts medicare on the table for discussion. the republican counter-offer would raise $800 billion through tax reform and cut $600 billion from federal health programs, including raising medicare eligibility, another $600 billion cut from mandatory and discretionary spending, and factor inflation less in calculating social security benefits. "what we're putting forth is a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house." in a three-page letter to the president calling democratic gains in the senate and mr. obama's victory a "status quo election," the republican proposal would raise half the amount as the president's plan and save $350 billion from medicare and medicaid. however, at the chicago fed, a gathering of 39 individuals from banking and manufacturing industries - including automakers and other sectors - say the economy is strong enough - barely - to withstand either party's direction. "the vast majority think the fiscal cliff's impact will n
. 2012] >> president obama talks about u.s. tax policy. the tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year. then, senator orrin hatch from utah gives the republican address on the fiscal cliff which refers to automatic tax increases and spending cuts that would go into effect in 2013. >> hi, everybody. i'm here on the factory floor of a business in hatfield, pennsylvania, where folks are working around the clock making toys to keep up with the christmas rush. and i came here because, back in washington, the clock is ticking on some important decisions that will have a real impact on our businesses - and on families like yours. the most pressing decision has to do with your taxes. see, at the end of the year, middle-class tax cuts are set to expire. and there are two things that can happen. first, if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see their income taxes rise by $2,200. we can't let that happen. our families can't afford it, and neither can our economy.
, but you're going to be the ones to cut medicare. if you want cuts in entitlements, but the mob. i'm not goingtodo both for you. lou: here is a thought. that is, the obama white house has made a rare mistake, miscalculation. they have incentivized republicans to say, you know, the heck with it. if you're not going to come to the table, we are not going to advance it. you have chosen and we have reached an agreement as to parties for sequestration. we will go along with the tax cuts. that's your decision. sequestration was part -- we are partners on that deal. let her rip. they're going to get twice as much in the way of spending cuts as an increase in taxes that way it's the best deal, and it's also oriented toward the republicans favored. >> the damage it will do to the economy. i don't think the president has a bigger role as he thinks he is. the house will be held by republicans for the foreseeable future, not just two years. midterm election six years, sterile for the president. the end of the day he wants a legacy. it's going to be the highest unemployment in history for two t
, the republicans are trying to criticize the obama proposals by saying you're not cutting spending, you're not coming to us on entitlements, but it's falling flat. no one's really listening and the white house has controlled the debate that it's all about the upper 2%. the first thing in texas you do is shrink the size of government, wouldn't you? >> well, we did that. we faced a substantial budget shortfall. we have a constitutional amendment that requires us to have a balanced budget, which frankly america needs that. >> i don't know what would happen. >> most states have that. >> the states that are -- i would suggest to you the states that are doing better economically have a constitutional amendment that requires them to balance their budget. so, we had to deal with that in the early 2000s. and interestingly, it was the first time since the 19th century, since back about 1870, that there were all republicans, republican speaker, republican house, republican lieutenant governor, republican senate and myself, and we had run on the premise that we were going to treat government differ
stands at $16 trillion. it was $10.6 trillion when president obama first took office and it has increased roughly 50% over the course of his first term. now president obama is insisting that any deal on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joinin
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